September 09, 2007
Saimoe update 9/9
Very low vote totals yesterday - but some interesting results from that. Akari won her round, no surprise there, as did Nono from Hitohira. The surprise of the day was Chigusa from Shana coming up with the win, with perhaps the lowest vote total of any winner so far, just under 400 votes. Ah well, even if it means she's cannon fodder for Ayu in the next round, making it that far isn't trivial.
Lots of secondary characters in the rounds today. G-3 is likely to go Eruru, simply based on last year's performance - both she and Aruru went quite far in the 2006 tourney. G-7's much tougher to call, mostly because I haven't seen two of the shows involved. Yukari has some clumsy mom power, though not quite MILF-style, but there's no telling if the Lucky Star fans will bother turning out for her. The last round, I have to favor Matsuri, who is indeed moe beyond any kind of reasonable standard, even if she's not wearing the kitty hat.
Edit: Got my hands on the first-round voting data for these characters. Turns out that Gretel from Akazukin and Karada from Asatte no Houkou both had relatively high vote totals in the first round. Haven't really heard much of anything about either show, though...
Ichiko in G-11 qualified from the first prelim, but with fewer votes than Matsuri got in her ninth-place finish. I still give this one to the girl with oddly variable hair.
Yesterday's results:
1ä½ã€€399 votes Sakai Chigusa@Shakugan no Shana
2ä½ã€€368 votes Sumeragi Kaguya@Code Geass Lelouche of the Rebellion
3ä½ã€€264 votes Sakuya@Utawarerumono
1ä½ã€€519 votes Mizunashi Akari@ARIA The NATURAL
2ä½ã€€380 votes Hime@Kaibutsu Oujo
3ä½ã€€180 votes Choco@Chocotto Sister
1ä½ã€€452 votes Ichinose Nono@Hitohira
2ä½ã€€295 votes Arf@Mahou Syoujo Lyrical Nanoha StrikerS
3ä½ã€€288 votes Cortic arte Apa Lagranges@Shinkyoku Soukai Polyphonica
Today's matches:
G-3(09/10):
リモãƒï¼ シムーン(Rimone@Simoun)
ã‚¨ãƒ«ãƒ«ã‚¥ï¼ ã†ãŸã‚れるもã®(Eruruu@Utawarerumono)
ãƒˆã‚¦ã‚«ï¼ ã†ãŸã‚れるもã®(Touka@Utawarerumono)
G-7(09/10):
グレーテル（é™æ£®ãˆã‚Šã‹ï¼‰ï¼ ãŠã¨ãŽéŠƒå£« 赤ãšãã‚“(Gretel(Shizumori Erika)@Otogi Jushi Akazukin)
高良ゆã‹ã‚Šï¼ らã☆ã™ãŸ(Takara Yukari@Lucky Star)
五百å·ã‹ã‚‰ã ï¼ ã‚ã•ã£ã¦ã®æ–¹å‘。(Iokawa Karada@Asatte no Houkou)
G-11(09/10):
高島一åï¼ ä¹™å¥³ã¯ãŠå§‰ã•ã¾ã«æ‹ã—ã¦ã‚‹(Takashima Ichiko@Otome wa Boku ni Koishiteru)
æ¡œæœ¨èŒ‰èŽ‰ï¼ è‹ºã¾ã—ã¾ã‚(Sakuragi Matsuri@Ichigo Mashimaro)
ãƒªãƒªã‚ªï¼ ã‚¨ãƒ«ãƒ»ã‚«ã‚¶ãƒ‰(Lirio@EL CAZADOR DE LA BRUJA)
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Lots of secondary characters in the rounds today. G-3 is likely to go Eruru, simply based on last year's performance - both she and Aruru went quite far in the 2006 tourney. G-7's much tougher to call, mostly because I haven't seen two of the shows involved. Yukari has some clumsy mom power, though not quite MILF-style, but there's no telling if the Lucky Star fans will bother turning out for her. The last round, I have to favor Matsuri, who is indeed moe beyond any kind of reasonable standard, even if she's not wearing the kitty hat.
Edit: Got my hands on the first-round voting data for these characters. Turns out that Gretel from Akazukin and Karada from Asatte no Houkou both had relatively high vote totals in the first round. Haven't really heard much of anything about either show, though...
Ichiko in G-11 qualified from the first prelim, but with fewer votes than Matsuri got in her ninth-place finish. I still give this one to the girl with oddly variable hair.
Yesterday's results:
1ä½ã€€399 votes Sakai Chigusa@Shakugan no Shana
2ä½ã€€368 votes Sumeragi Kaguya@Code Geass Lelouche of the Rebellion
3ä½ã€€264 votes Sakuya@Utawarerumono
1ä½ã€€519 votes Mizunashi Akari@ARIA The NATURAL
2ä½ã€€380 votes Hime@Kaibutsu Oujo
3ä½ã€€180 votes Choco@Chocotto Sister
1ä½ã€€452 votes Ichinose Nono@Hitohira
2ä½ã€€295 votes Arf@Mahou Syoujo Lyrical Nanoha StrikerS
3ä½ã€€288 votes Cortic arte Apa Lagranges@Shinkyoku Soukai Polyphonica
Today's matches:
G-3(09/10):
リモãƒï¼ シムーン(Rimone@Simoun)
ã‚¨ãƒ«ãƒ«ã‚¥ï¼ ã†ãŸã‚れるもã®(Eruruu@Utawarerumono)
ãƒˆã‚¦ã‚«ï¼ ã†ãŸã‚れるもã®(Touka@Utawarerumono)
G-7(09/10):
グレーテル（é™æ£®ãˆã‚Šã‹ï¼‰ï¼ ãŠã¨ãŽéŠƒå£« 赤ãšãã‚“(Gretel(Shizumori Erika)@Otogi Jushi Akazukin)
高良ゆã‹ã‚Šï¼ らã☆ã™ãŸ(Takara Yukari@Lucky Star)
五百å·ã‹ã‚‰ã ï¼ ã‚ã•ã£ã¦ã®æ–¹å‘。(Iokawa Karada@Asatte no Houkou)
G-11(09/10):
高島一åï¼ ä¹™å¥³ã¯ãŠå§‰ã•ã¾ã«æ‹ã—ã¦ã‚‹(Takashima Ichiko@Otome wa Boku ni Koishiteru)
æ¡œæœ¨èŒ‰èŽ‰ï¼ è‹ºã¾ã—ã¾ã‚(Sakuragi Matsuri@Ichigo Mashimaro)
ãƒªãƒªã‚ªï¼ ã‚¨ãƒ«ãƒ»ã‚«ã‚¶ãƒ‰(Lirio@EL CAZADOR DE LA BRUJA)
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It seems the only way Chigusa could do this is by winning the "apathy" vote. As it were.
By all rights Matsuri should clean the floor with her opponents, but given the way this thing's been going it's anybody's guess whether she really will.
It's just an impression, but it looks to me as if fatigue is starting to set in, and the vote totals are going steadily down as people get tired of the whole business. Probably that will kick back up again in the next round, but I'd say the guys running this have made it too long to keep people interested. (Except for the raging fanboys. And you. And me.)
Posted by: Steven Den Beste at September 09, 2007 11:14 PM (+rSRq)
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When you have low level characters this is the kind of result you are going to get.
The votes total for 9/10 should go back up with Mion and Rika.
And the H block will be quite high with several High Power characters up for voting several days in a row.
Sugintou
Fate
Mai
The votes total for 9/10 should go back up with Mion and Rika.
And the H block will be quite high with several High Power characters up for voting several days in a row.
Sugintou
Fate
Mai
Posted by: xellos-_^ at September 10, 2007 11:31 AM (12gxe)
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There was definitely a fatigue element last year; heck, this year's better in that respect, as at least there's some popular characters in the last couple of blocks.
To put it bluntly, voting's a pain in the rear. If there's no real moe from your perspective in any of that day's matches, you're not gonna bother voting. (Well, maybe if you're driven by some devious tactical reason to favor someone who's really moe in your book? But that's unusual.) Show popularity is still a very strong indicator - Chigusa didn't win because she was super-moe, but because enough Shana fans would vote for anything Shana to put her in first place.
I think setting up the block brackets works against Saimoe here. Matches without popular characters don't draw a lot of votes on their own, and when the winner of those matches is just going to run into a S-class moe-bomb in the next round, why bother? Perversely, they tend to drive more voters to the rounds with popular characters, because how those popular characters finish will actually matter in the wider tourney too. But on the other hand, that's a big part of the point - if they randomized the bracket every round, it would just be a war of all against all, and tactical alliances would be impossible or stupid (because you never know if the character you're aiding this round will be matched up against your very-favorite moe next round.)
I do think it could stand to be a little smaller/shorter... the first round is plenty long and has lots of no-hope characters. You could reduce it in size by a third, convert the second round to a one-on-one instead of a best-of-three, and not really lose any popular characters.
To put it bluntly, voting's a pain in the rear. If there's no real moe from your perspective in any of that day's matches, you're not gonna bother voting. (Well, maybe if you're driven by some devious tactical reason to favor someone who's really moe in your book? But that's unusual.) Show popularity is still a very strong indicator - Chigusa didn't win because she was super-moe, but because enough Shana fans would vote for anything Shana to put her in first place.
I think setting up the block brackets works against Saimoe here. Matches without popular characters don't draw a lot of votes on their own, and when the winner of those matches is just going to run into a S-class moe-bomb in the next round, why bother? Perversely, they tend to drive more voters to the rounds with popular characters, because how those popular characters finish will actually matter in the wider tourney too. But on the other hand, that's a big part of the point - if they randomized the bracket every round, it would just be a war of all against all, and tactical alliances would be impossible or stupid (because you never know if the character you're aiding this round will be matched up against your very-favorite moe next round.)
I do think it could stand to be a little smaller/shorter... the first round is plenty long and has lots of no-hope characters. You could reduce it in size by a third, convert the second round to a one-on-one instead of a best-of-three, and not really lose any popular characters.
Posted by: Avatar_exADV at September 10, 2007 05:53 PM (LMDdY)
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