October 29, 2007

Saimoe quarterfinals, results

You know, something went badly wrong somewhere in Saimoe.

Okay, first, sorry for falling off the face of the planet over the weekend. Fully recovered from the Nanoha loss. (...I'm saying, like I was too broke up to blog over it instead of just being lazy...) Regular Saimoe coverage should resume here, or rather, there's only a few more matches anyway.

But come on, TWO of the four characters from the semi-finals from Higurashi? And the surviving Rozen Maiden is Shinku? That's not merely odd, it's bordering on perverse.

A friend commented that the reason we were seeing odd results (that eventually led to this) is because the floating opposition-vote was easy to keep organized, so to speak; a lot of strong characters ended up losing by a thin margin to weak characters because of very large numbers of votes cast by a loose coalition of "everyone who doesn't have a character in this round". Extreme popularity became a detriment, even - it just marked you as a target in later rounds.

That's not to denigrate the moe-ness of the characters who are left - they didn't get this far purely on spite and bile. I personally like Shinku, Nagi deserved every win she got, and I'm aware that my negative perception of the Higurashi girls is colored (practically dyed!) by the negative perception of that show in general. But at the end of the day, does anyone really believe this is a good reflection of which characters are the most moe? It's like watching a sports playoff between teams that muddled through their seasons, after all the good teams flamed out at the end because of injuries and hack-a-Shaq-style play.

So is the basic premise of Saimoe just flawed? In becoming more or less organized, and having grown to more or less maturity, has it gone beyond "which girl has the strongest moe" and become a pure selection process to weed out spectacular moe in favor of milquetoast characters who don't pose a threat?

I'm not really cross - I mean, if we take the sports analogy further, it's not the playoff that matters so much as the fun you had watching that season. But maybe it could be improved to make these issues less, well... less this way?
Semifinal matchups:

竜宮レナ@ひぐらしのなく頃に(Ryuuguu Rena@Higurashi no Naku Koro ni)
三千院ナギ@ハヤテのごとく!(Sanzenin Nagi@Hayate the Combat Butler)

古手梨花@ひぐらしのなく頃に(Furude Rika@Higurashi no Naku Koro ni)
真紅@ローゼンメイデン オーベルテューレ(Shinku@Rozen Maiden Ouverture)

Posted by: Avatar_exADV at 06:28 PM | Comments (8) | Add Comment
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1 Ouch some dislike of the Higurashi girls. Ironically I stand completely opposed with those two having my full support in their matches. If you have a negative perception of the show it would be hard to see the excellent moe those two have.

It is an odd thing to see some characters I would've had at the top not being there. I do think it's hard for who an individual may see as the most moe to win. Big characters will have a lot of heavy emotions one way or the other influencing it. Maybe Saimoe really is about the sadness you feel when your favorite goes out. Like in sports the chances for your team to win is pretty low (unless you have a ridiculous advantage and good ownership that doesn't suck...). Your probably going to lose so it comes down to supporting and feeling for the group when they go down.

Posted by: FlareKnight at October 29, 2007 06:37 PM (R+wJ4)

2

It looks to me like it's become more about getting your team into the finals than selecting true all-stars. I think that, for it to work as advertised in the future, they need to scale back on the bracket size, and force people to put their show's best up. There will always be anti-voting, but this would at least keep middling characters from being forced up the bracket. The hard part would be figuring out a way to stretch the tournament. They're doing it for the traffic.

You know what would be fun next year?

Whenever gamefaqs.com holds their videogame character battle tournament, a board I frequent breaks into March Madness mode and "bets" on who those chuckle-heads will send into the next round. It gets pretty interesting trying to figure out if recent characters like Master Chief backed by the X-box crowd will knock off classic characters like Mario and Link and other Nintendo favorites..

Posted by: Will at October 29, 2007 07:26 PM (E3UGR)

3 i said it at the start of saimoe in AS. Saimoe is not about who is the most moe but the least dislike.

Posted by: Xellos-_^ at October 29, 2007 09:04 PM (hN5+S)

4 Sheesh. No one left in contention that I care about or would have voted for, that's for sure.

Posted by: Steven Den Beste at October 29, 2007 11:23 PM (+rSRq)

5

The whole so-and-so vs so-and-so thing does make revenge voting and other bad things pretty easy. The only way to really counter it would be to just have something like a longer voting period where you get like one vote a day or something for whoever. This way you can't anti-vote anyone and you would pretty much have to vote for who ever you like most and think is the most moe.

Still this being a random rant from a single foreigner won't change anything anyway. Not to take anything away from our semi-finalist, although i swear if it weren't for revenge votes we could have the epic Tsukasa vs Kagami fight =p.

Posted by: at October 31, 2007 04:45 AM (KOF1n)

6

So presumably it's all over by now? Who won?

(This is like watching an anime series where the final episode was yanked because of blood and gore.)

Posted by: Steven Den Beste at November 02, 2007 12:25 PM (+rSRq)

7 The final is today--Nagi versus Rika.

Posted by: Andrew F. at November 03, 2007 12:04 AM (BbCj1)

8 Rika wins! That's a confirmed victory over fate.

Posted by: FlareKnight at November 03, 2007 08:10 AM (R+wJ4)

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